Comments on: Shoveling a Load http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/ pursuing holiness, following politics Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:16:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Laura http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-4701 Laura Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:52:29 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-4701 Actually, Ashley, it's been proved beyond any doubt that illegal immigrants cost us far more than they contribute. Aside from citing studies, facts and figures, which are posted and linked to in many posts on this blog and others, just think about it from a common sense standpoint. They're getting paid next to nothing - illegal immigrants are the new slave class - and because they are below the poverty line, they do not pay taxes. Many companies pay illegals in cash so no taxes are even deducted, but illegal immigrants who don't get paid in cash get a social security number (you don't have to be a citizen to get one), and many do in fact file their taxes and get refunds, and even the earned income tax credit. Additionally, these low wage crappy jobs rarely have benefits. So when an illegal immigrant needs health care, they go to the emergency room and then just don't pay the bill when it comes. Hundreds of hospitals have actually closed in border communities because of unreimbursed medical bills incurred by illegal immigrants. They are also eligible for all kinds of government benefits. Finally, "remittances" are the money sent back to their home country from people who are here illegally. Remittances are the 2nd biggest source of income for Mexico - more even than tourism, and they take billions out of the American economy every year. Illegals are a huge drain on the economy. Actually, Ashley, it’s been proved beyond any doubt that illegal immigrants cost us far more than they contribute. Aside from citing studies, facts and figures, which are posted and linked to in many posts on this blog and others, just think about it from a common sense standpoint.

They’re getting paid next to nothing – illegal immigrants are the new slave class – and because they are below the poverty line, they do not pay taxes. Many companies pay illegals in cash so no taxes are even deducted, but illegal immigrants who don’t get paid in cash get a social security number (you don’t have to be a citizen to get one), and many do in fact file their taxes and get refunds, and even the earned income tax credit. Additionally, these low wage crappy jobs rarely have benefits. So when an illegal immigrant needs health care, they go to the emergency room and then just don’t pay the bill when it comes. Hundreds of hospitals have actually closed in border communities because of unreimbursed medical bills incurred by illegal immigrants. They are also eligible for all kinds of government benefits.

Finally, “remittances” are the money sent back to their home country from people who are here illegally. Remittances are the 2nd biggest source of income for Mexico – more even than tourism, and they take billions out of the American economy every year.

Illegals are a huge drain on the economy.

]]> By: ashley http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-4695 ashley Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:47:38 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-4695 is this about immigration? j/k my thoughts on immigration, is that it is okay but then i thought about it and relized if we keep letting them in then theres going to be more immigrates than actual citizens, then whos going to be ruling our country. but can this actually happen who knows? but really there just here to get a better live style to help there familys and etc. and there getting payed less for the jobs we dont want to do so in all actuallity there just helping our economy is this about immigration? j/k my thoughts on immigration, is that it is okay but then i thought about it and relized if we keep letting them in then theres going to be more immigrates than actual citizens, then whos going to be ruling our country. but can this actually happen who knows? but really there just here to get a better live style to help there familys and etc. and there getting payed less for the jobs we dont want to do so in all actuallity there just helping our economy

]]> By: Southern Sass on Criminal Activity Today » CAII http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-2658 Southern Sass on Criminal Activity Today » CAII Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:02:00 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-2658 [...] Southern Sass on Criminal Activity Today CAII Filed under CAII postCount('115214140610052637'); | postCountTB('115214140610052637'); July 5th, 2006 by Magnolia crosspost Mexican Election Too Close To Call (so they didn’t!) by The Uncooperative Blogger on 07-05-06 @ 3:42 pm MT. Filed under U.S. News & Politics, Illegal Immigration, Mexico Cross posted from Red Hot Cuppa Politics So, the Presidential elections in Mexico are too close to call. It may sound familiar, but it’s not. First, the Mexican press is not allowed to call the election until the votes are counted. What a refreshing notion — since here in the US, our fearless media pundits called the election for Kerry at 1 pm CST. Second, neither presidential candidate ceded defeat. They’re both claiming victory. From Forbes, title link: Two bitter rivals declared themselves winners of Mexico’s extraordinarily close presidential race despite election officials saying official results wouldn’t be ready for days - sparking cries of fraud from supporters and fears of violence. The candidates - a conservative bureaucrat and a leftist - were separated by fewer than 300,000 votes with more than 30 million counted in a preliminary tally by electoral officials. Felipe Calderon had 37.1 percent to Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador’s 36.1 percent, according to results from 80 percent of polling places (notice the choice of adjectives used by the ever-so-objective MSM outlet — and Forbes is one of the best of the lot — FB) AM Mora y Leon drove across the border, to provide some excellent coverage live from Tijuana:. Seventy-one million Mexicans were qualified to vote, and based on what I saw in Tijuana, they took it seriously. Everyone voted. Many of those who forgot to register to vote from the consulates in the U.S. drove to Tijuana to vote - and there were polling stations right over on the other side of the border specifically for them. Early in the morning, Mexican expat voters crossed the border into Mexico to vote for president as the sunrise broke across the east… What was striking to me was that despite discontent with the PAN party under Fox, the support for PAN seemed to be rock solid and the people’s faith unshaken. Many cited their faith in free trade and desire to remain friends with the U.S. I found that moving. There was one other factor that stood out for me - people said the number one issue was personal security, and they believed Felipe Calderon was the man who would be most likely to do something about it. I took a photo of a Calderon campaign poster. It was posted on a house that was literally a cage, it was so covered with security bars. Those two factors seemed to fit together. As prosperity rises in Mexico’s north, Mexicans seemed to be more concerned about personal security than has generally been reported in the press. Jobs and education have been the dominant themes, but security was what people mentioned to me .. Mark In Mexico has poll numbers, and links to an interesting article about how ex-pat Mexicans — that’s illegal immigrants to the US — have some problems crossing back into their homeland to vote. The socialist candidate, Obrador, is reportedly supported by Hugo Chavez. If he wins, this will be a star in the crown of Chavez’ leftist ambitions for Latin America. Prof.Budgie also watched the election coverage on Azteca TV last night. He was impressed by the fact that the Mexican press is not allowed to call the election before the votes are counted; the voting is strictly by headcount — there is nothing like an electoral college in Mexico. He also said that Fox’s party PAN (Partido Acción Nacional) seemed to be ahead in the governor’s races in the provinces. Remember, since there are more than two serious political parties in Mexico, the winner’s percentage will probably be in the thirties. Because of splits, it will not be a majority — just a majority enough to win. The good Prof made another interesting observation after hearing Vicente Fox’s speech carried by Azteca. Fox never closes with “God Bless Mexico” — as our own President does with “God Bless the USA …” It is interesting; I seem to recall that other US Presidents have closed with “God Bless America” — and I suppose that if you’re the President of a country that doesn’t have the ACLU running around, trying to eradicate all traces of religion, you can choose to say it or not. For more coverage on the Mexican election results, click to: : PoliBlog, Blue Crab Boulevard and Silent Running. Darrell has an interesting article on “Mexico’s Missing Prosperty … ” which provides some context to the election, I think. For some excellent coverage on illegal immigration reform, click to the CoalitionBlog. Debbie over at RightTruth has an ascerbic post about some immigration “humor ,PoliticsFix 4 RSO, and Free Constitution are already posting this morning — and don’t miss MorningCoffee and Pursuing Holiness. Debbie over at RightTruth has a couple of pithy comments about post illegal immigration, using a joke posted by Pursuing Holiness Of course, MorningCoffee has an excellent article with Did the Senate Just Blink? Senator Spector’s a hoot without even knowing it, right … ? Debbie’s got a more serious analogy of our borders being a bleeding wound, and she’s correct. **This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email the coalition and let me know at what level you would like to participate.** ©Copyright-all rights reserved Submit above to CrabApple.cc [...] [...] Southern Sass on Criminal Activity Today CAII Filed under CAII postCount(‘115214140610052637′); | postCountTB(‘115214140610052637′); July 5th, 2006 by Magnolia crosspost Mexican Election Too Close To Call (so they didn’t!) by The Uncooperative Blogger on 07-05-06 @ 3:42 pm MT. Filed under U.S. News & Politics, Illegal Immigration, Mexico Cross posted from Red Hot Cuppa Politics So, the Presidential elections in Mexico are too close to call. It may sound familiar, but it’s not. First, the Mexican press is not allowed to call the election until the votes are counted. What a refreshing notion — since here in the US, our fearless media pundits called the election for Kerry at 1 pm CST. Second, neither presidential candidate ceded defeat. They’re both claiming victory. From Forbes, title link: Two bitter rivals declared themselves winners of Mexico’s extraordinarily close presidential race despite election officials saying official results wouldn’t be ready for days – sparking cries of fraud from supporters and fears of violence. The candidates – a conservative bureaucrat and a leftist – were separated by fewer than 300,000 votes with more than 30 million counted in a preliminary tally by electoral officials. Felipe Calderon had 37.1 percent to Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador’s 36.1 percent, according to results from 80 percent of polling places (notice the choice of adjectives used by the ever-so-objective MSM outlet — and Forbes is one of the best of the lot — FB) AM Mora y Leon drove across the border, to provide some excellent coverage live from Tijuana:. Seventy-one million Mexicans were qualified to vote, and based on what I saw in Tijuana, they took it seriously. Everyone voted. Many of those who forgot to register to vote from the consulates in the U.S. drove to Tijuana to vote – and there were polling stations right over on the other side of the border specifically for them. Early in the morning, Mexican expat voters crossed the border into Mexico to vote for president as the sunrise broke across the east… What was striking to me was that despite discontent with the PAN party under Fox, the support for PAN seemed to be rock solid and the people’s faith unshaken. Many cited their faith in free trade and desire to remain friends with the U.S. I found that moving. There was one other factor that stood out for me – people said the number one issue was personal security, and they believed Felipe Calderon was the man who would be most likely to do something about it. I took a photo of a Calderon campaign poster. It was posted on a house that was literally a cage, it was so covered with security bars. Those two factors seemed to fit together. As prosperity rises in Mexico’s north, Mexicans seemed to be more concerned about personal security than has generally been reported in the press. Jobs and education have been the dominant themes, but security was what people mentioned to me .. Mark In Mexico has poll numbers, and links to an interesting article about how ex-pat Mexicans — that’s illegal immigrants to the US — have some problems crossing back into their homeland to vote. The socialist candidate, Obrador, is reportedly supported by Hugo Chavez. If he wins, this will be a star in the crown of Chavez’ leftist ambitions for Latin America. Prof.Budgie also watched the election coverage on Azteca TV last night. He was impressed by the fact that the Mexican press is not allowed to call the election before the votes are counted; the voting is strictly by headcount — there is nothing like an electoral college in Mexico. He also said that Fox’s party PAN (Partido Acción Nacional) seemed to be ahead in the governor’s races in the provinces. Remember, since there are more than two serious political parties in Mexico, the winner’s percentage will probably be in the thirties. Because of splits, it will not be a majority — just a majority enough to win. The good Prof made another interesting observation after hearing Vicente Fox’s speech carried by Azteca. Fox never closes with “God Bless Mexico” — as our own President does with “God Bless the USA …” It is interesting; I seem to recall that other US Presidents have closed with “God Bless America” — and I suppose that if you’re the President of a country that doesn’t have the ACLU running around, trying to eradicate all traces of religion, you can choose to say it or not. For more coverage on the Mexican election results, click to: : PoliBlog, Blue Crab Boulevard and Silent Running. Darrell has an interesting article on “Mexico’s Missing Prosperty … ” which provides some context to the election, I think. For some excellent coverage on illegal immigration reform, click to the CoalitionBlog. Debbie over at RightTruth has an ascerbic post about some immigration “humor ,PoliticsFix 4 RSO, and Free Constitution are already posting this morning — and don’t miss MorningCoffee and Pursuing Holiness. Debbie over at RightTruth has a couple of pithy comments about post illegal immigration, using a joke posted by Pursuing Holiness Of course, MorningCoffee has an excellent article with Did the Senate Just Blink? Senator Spector’s a hoot without even knowing it, right … ? Debbie’s got a more serious analogy of our borders being a bleeding wound, and she’s correct. **This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email the coalition and let me know at what level you would like to participate.** ©Copyright-all rights reserved Submit above to CrabApple.cc [...]

]]> By: The Uncooperative Blogger http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-2211 The Uncooperative Blogger Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:36:27 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-2211 <strong>Shoveling a Load</strong> Cross posted from Pursuing Holiness Another one of those viral emails - 5,000 years ago Moses said, “Pick up your shovel, pack your ass, mount your camel and I shall lead you to the Promised Land.” 200-plus years ago, George Washington said, “Get... Shoveling a Load

Cross posted from Pursuing Holiness
Another one of those viral emails -
5,000 years ago Moses said, “Pick up your shovel, pack your ass, mount your camel and I shall lead you to the Promised Land.”
200-plus years ago, George Washington said, “Get…

]]> By: Coalition Against Illegal Immigration http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-2210 Coalition Against Illegal Immigration Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:49:18 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-2210 <strong>Shoveling a Load</strong> Cross posted from Pursuing Holiness Another one of those viral emails - 5,000 years ago Moses said, “Pick up your shovel, pack your ass, mount your camel and I shall lead you to the Promised Land.” 200-plus years ago, George Washington said, “Get... Shoveling a Load

Cross posted from Pursuing Holiness
Another one of those viral emails -
5,000 years ago Moses said, “Pick up your shovel, pack your ass, mount your camel and I shall lead you to the Promised Land.”
200-plus years ago, George Washington said, “Get…

]]> By: CommonSenseAmerica » Shoveling a Load http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-2193 CommonSenseAmerica » Shoveling a Load Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:55:37 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-2193 [...] Cross posted from Pursuing Holiness [...] [...] Cross posted from Pursuing Holiness [...]

]]> By: Morning Coffee » Blog Archive » Shoveling a Load http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-2072 Morning Coffee » Blog Archive » Shoveling a Load Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:04:23 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-2072 [...] Cross Posted from Pursuing Holiness [...] [...] Cross Posted from Pursuing Holiness [...]

]]> By: Right Truth http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-2057 Right Truth Mon, 03 Jul 2006 01:51:16 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-2057 <strong>Shoveling a Load (immigration)</strong> (Cross posted from Pursuing Holiness) Another one of those viral emails - 5,000 years ago Moses said, “Pick up your shovel, pack your ass, mount your camel and I shall lead you to the Promised Land.” 200-plus years ago, George Shoveling a Load (immigration)

(Cross posted from Pursuing Holiness) Another one of those viral emails – 5,000 years ago Moses said, “Pick up your shovel, pack your ass, mount your camel and I shall lead you to the Promised Land.” 200-plus years ago, George

]]> By: Debbie http://pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/shoveling-a-load/comment-page-1/#comment-2055 Debbie Mon, 03 Jul 2006 01:45:22 +0000 http://www.pursuingholiness.com/2006/07/02/shoveling-a-load/#comment-2055 That email is priceless. Very good post. I'm really wondering what the Senate and House are going to come up with. I am hearing more and more from both sides on "secure the border FIRST", so that's hopeful. That email is priceless. Very good post. I’m really wondering what the Senate and House are going to come up with. I am hearing more and more from both sides on “secure the border FIRST”, so that’s hopeful.

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