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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://pursuingholiness.com/2008/11/congratulations-president-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-49354</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MC, socialist policies directly harm the church, as I&#039;ve explained in some detail &lt;a href=&quot;http://pursuingholiness.com/2008/02/11/social-justice-for-the-glory-of-government/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  It&#039;s also objectively true that more socialist policies don&#039;t even accomplish what Christians who espouse them want to accomplish - socialist countries suffer more poverty than capitalist ones.  

Go ahead, list a socialist country that enjoys the lifestyle we enjoy here in America.  Even the people who live under the poverty line here &lt;a href=&quot;http://pursuingholiness.com/2007/12/22/you-cant-have-your-poverty-and-your-big-screen-tv-too/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;are doing pretty well&lt;/a&gt;.  We have very few genuinely poor people in this country.  

Only about a third of poor households - around 12.5 million in a country of over 105 million households - experience conditions most of us would classify as “poverty” including intermittent food shortages, difficulty paying bills, and less access to medical care.  And the church can and should be caring for those 12.5 million families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MC, socialist policies directly harm the church, as I&#8217;ve explained in some detail <a href="http://pursuingholiness.com/2008/02/11/social-justice-for-the-glory-of-government/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  It&#8217;s also objectively true that more socialist policies don&#8217;t even accomplish what Christians who espouse them want to accomplish &#8211; socialist countries suffer more poverty than capitalist ones.  </p>
<p>Go ahead, list a socialist country that enjoys the lifestyle we enjoy here in America.  Even the people who live under the poverty line here <a href="http://pursuingholiness.com/2007/12/22/you-cant-have-your-poverty-and-your-big-screen-tv-too/" rel="nofollow">are doing pretty well</a>.  We have very few genuinely poor people in this country.  </p>
<p>Only about a third of poor households &#8211; around 12.5 million in a country of over 105 million households &#8211; experience conditions most of us would classify as “poverty” including intermittent food shortages, difficulty paying bills, and less access to medical care.  And the church can and should be caring for those 12.5 million families.</p>
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		<title>By: Messy Christian</title>
		<link>http://pursuingholiness.com/2008/11/congratulations-president-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-49346</link>
		<dc:creator>Messy Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I don&#039;t get it. I don&#039;t understand why American Christians are so against socialism. What is with that? I&#039;m a socialist at heart, but does that make me less of a follower of Christ? Does that mean I love God less? No! How about brothers and sisters in Christ who live in socialist countries like France who love the Lord?

I find it sad that American Christianity is so tainted by American politics that some people just can&#039;t thinking outside its confines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I don&#8217;t get it. I don&#8217;t understand why American Christians are so against socialism. What is with that? I&#8217;m a socialist at heart, but does that make me less of a follower of Christ? Does that mean I love God less? No! How about brothers and sisters in Christ who live in socialist countries like France who love the Lord?</p>
<p>I find it sad that American Christianity is so tainted by American politics that some people just can&#8217;t thinking outside its confines.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Keegan</title>
		<link>http://pursuingholiness.com/2008/11/congratulations-president-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-49301</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Keegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proverbs 21:1 — The king’s heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turns it wherever he will.  Christians need to pray for Obama (as well as all of our leaders) that his heart will be turned to the Lord. Minimally, for himself he needs salvation. Corporately, we need to have someone in charge who will allow us to live peaceably with all men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proverbs 21:1 — The king’s heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turns it wherever he will.  Christians need to pray for Obama (as well as all of our leaders) that his heart will be turned to the Lord. Minimally, for himself he needs salvation. Corporately, we need to have someone in charge who will allow us to live peaceably with all men.</p>
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		<title>By: Anwarul Islam Mukul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anwarul Islam Mukul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. President Obama:. &quot;
 My heartfelt congratulations  on your victory  as  the President of United States of America.Yes We Did!!!


With best regards,

Anwarul Islam  Mukul 
Adviser Bangladesh Muktijoddha SangshadSangshad US Command Council 2008
Ex-General Secretary Triangle Bangladesh Society of North Carolina 2007
5927 Farm Gate Road
Raleigh, NC 27606
Tel:919-308-7407
Email:Anwarul77@Aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. President Obama:. &#8221;<br />
 My heartfelt congratulations  on your victory  as  the President of United States of America.Yes We Did!!!</p>
<p>With best regards,</p>
<p>Anwarul Islam  Mukul<br />
Adviser Bangladesh Muktijoddha SangshadSangshad US Command Council 2008<br />
Ex-General Secretary Triangle Bangladesh Society of North Carolina 2007<br />
5927 Farm Gate Road<br />
Raleigh, NC 27606<br />
Tel:919-308-7407<br />
Email:Anwarul77@Aol.com</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://pursuingholiness.com/2008/11/congratulations-president-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-49295</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain&#039;s &quot;I&#039;ll build the fence&quot; quote and his renewed commitment to shamnesty were actually consistent positions. Once we rejected his outright amnesty bill, he realized that the American people wanted to seal the border first -- so he planned to accomplish comprehensive reform as two separate steps. On his website, he always supported a path-to-citizenship, but he claimed that he would support it only &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; they had properly sealed the border.

Ideally, &quot;de-magnetization&quot; would be the best solution. That means establishing a SSN-check network, and then clamping down severely on businesses that hire illegals, to the point where illegals deport &lt;em&gt;themselves&lt;/em&gt; due to a lack of job opportunities. The whole &quot;You can&#039;t deport 12 million people&quot; argument is vacuous.

But  even though it&#039;s non-ideal, I think most people could get behind a path to citizenship if they knew that the border had already been sealed shut.

My biggest gripe with McCain was his global warming commitment. Palin&#039;s last ditch attack about Obama bankrupting the coal industry was fairly hypocritical, considering McCain supports a similar (although presumably less aggressive) cap-and-trade plan.

And McCain ignorance about economics was just frustrating. He put forth a lot of good proposals:  Flattening the income tax somewhat, cutting business taxes, cutting stock trading taxes, and a government &quot;spending freeze.&quot; But he really couldn&#039;t articulate any of it effectively. He couldn&#039;t even explain the benefits of his own health insurance plan. He should&#039;ve said, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;You know that health plan you get from your job? Your boss gives it to you cheaply because it&#039;s tax-free for him. But I know that YOU can choose a health plan that suits your needs better than your employer can, so I&#039;m going to transfer that tax break from the big evil company...to YOU.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

Even Joe the Plumber did a better job of discussing economics, and all Joe really hit on was the morality of it -- rather than the pragmatic explanation that tax hikes hurt everyone. But on his own, McCain could barely articulate the moral aspects &lt;em&gt;or&lt;/em&gt; the mathematical facts. Honestly, I doubt McCain even understood his own tax plan. Some campaign manager probably just wrote it for him and forgot to educate him about it properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;ll build the fence&#8221; quote and his renewed commitment to shamnesty were actually consistent positions. Once we rejected his outright amnesty bill, he realized that the American people wanted to seal the border first &#8212; so he planned to accomplish comprehensive reform as two separate steps. On his website, he always supported a path-to-citizenship, but he claimed that he would support it only <strong><em>after</em></strong> they had properly sealed the border.</p>
<p>Ideally, &#8220;de-magnetization&#8221; would be the best solution. That means establishing a SSN-check network, and then clamping down severely on businesses that hire illegals, to the point where illegals deport <em>themselves</em> due to a lack of job opportunities. The whole &#8220;You can&#8217;t deport 12 million people&#8221; argument is vacuous.</p>
<p>But  even though it&#8217;s non-ideal, I think most people could get behind a path to citizenship if they knew that the border had already been sealed shut.</p>
<p>My biggest gripe with McCain was his global warming commitment. Palin&#8217;s last ditch attack about Obama bankrupting the coal industry was fairly hypocritical, considering McCain supports a similar (although presumably less aggressive) cap-and-trade plan.</p>
<p>And McCain ignorance about economics was just frustrating. He put forth a lot of good proposals:  Flattening the income tax somewhat, cutting business taxes, cutting stock trading taxes, and a government &#8220;spending freeze.&#8221; But he really couldn&#8217;t articulate any of it effectively. He couldn&#8217;t even explain the benefits of his own health insurance plan. He should&#8217;ve said, <strong><em>&#8220;You know that health plan you get from your job? Your boss gives it to you cheaply because it&#8217;s tax-free for him. But I know that YOU can choose a health plan that suits your needs better than your employer can, so I&#8217;m going to transfer that tax break from the big evil company&#8230;to YOU.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>Even Joe the Plumber did a better job of discussing economics, and all Joe really hit on was the morality of it &#8212; rather than the pragmatic explanation that tax hikes hurt everyone. But on his own, McCain could barely articulate the moral aspects <em>or</em> the mathematical facts. Honestly, I doubt McCain even understood his own tax plan. Some campaign manager probably just wrote it for him and forgot to educate him about it properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still sort of sick about Fred.  He quit just before he would have won Louisiana&#039;s primary, which would have kept him competitive enough to stay in the race.  Romney wasn&#039;t my favorite, but I&#039;d have been happier to vote for him than I was for McCain.

But do you really believe McCain changed his opinions?  I think he was lying.  For example, he embraced closing the borders to win the nomination, and then the &quot;I&#039;ll build the g-d fence&quot; quote came out... then he said the first thing he&#039;d do in office was pass shamnesty.  Not that it matters now.  But while I think he is a good man and had a lot going for him, he was still a pol trying to get elected and willing to lie to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still sort of sick about Fred.  He quit just before he would have won Louisiana&#8217;s primary, which would have kept him competitive enough to stay in the race.  Romney wasn&#8217;t my favorite, but I&#8217;d have been happier to vote for him than I was for McCain.</p>
<p>But do you really believe McCain changed his opinions?  I think he was lying.  For example, he embraced closing the borders to win the nomination, and then the &#8220;I&#8217;ll build the g-d fence&#8221; quote came out&#8230; then he said the first thing he&#8217;d do in office was pass shamnesty.  Not that it matters now.  But while I think he is a good man and had a lot going for him, he was still a pol trying to get elected and willing to lie to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew to like McCain over the campaign, and he showed signs of repentence for his past liberalism.  But overall, he was a poor communicator and a very weak candidate.

If Romney had run against Obama, he would have clearly articulated, &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Look, my opponent wants to raise taxes on all corporations, all big businesses, and some small businesses by at least 10 percentage points. Taxes on businesses are essentially the same as a national sales tax. My opponent&#039;s tax increase will harm all Americans, especially the poor.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Heck, Fred Thompson &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; say that at the Convention. His speech was the best one that whole week.

But McCain speaks rather poorly, and understands economics even more poorly. For that reason, a lot of dense citizens went to the polls thinking they were voting themselves a tax cut. But like Obama said in his speech, all our fates are tied. It&#039;s very hard to tax one group without it impacting everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew to like McCain over the campaign, and he showed signs of repentence for his past liberalism.  But overall, he was a poor communicator and a very weak candidate.</p>
<p>If Romney had run against Obama, he would have clearly articulated, <em><strong>&#8220;Look, my opponent wants to raise taxes on all corporations, all big businesses, and some small businesses by at least 10 percentage points. Taxes on businesses are essentially the same as a national sales tax. My opponent&#8217;s tax increase will harm all Americans, especially the poor.&#8221;</strong></em></p>
<p>Heck, Fred Thompson <em>did</em> say that at the Convention. His speech was the best one that whole week.</p>
<p>But McCain speaks rather poorly, and understands economics even more poorly. For that reason, a lot of dense citizens went to the polls thinking they were voting themselves a tax cut. But like Obama said in his speech, all our fates are tied. It&#8217;s very hard to tax one group without it impacting everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://pursuingholiness.com/2008/11/congratulations-president-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-49273</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Rudolph - toward socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rudolph &#8211; toward socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudolf Sipkema</title>
		<link>http://pursuingholiness.com/2008/11/congratulations-president-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-49269</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudolf Sipkema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One giant leap for the USA.</description>
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		<title>By: Thrifty Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrifty Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right.  The people have spoken.  There is no doubt that Obama won because of the biased media, the endless flow of election funds he had, and that the American people don&#039;t know the whole truth about him.  I wonder what will happen if it&#039;s proven that he&#039;s not really a natural born American citizen.  The people are so blinded by his charisma, that they&#039;ll probably be willing to overlook it or change the constitution to suite him.  Just as the Israelites begged for a king and defied God and Samuel, the American people have begged for Obama.  I hope they can afford to keep up with him.  He&#039;ll be willing to spread everyone&#039;s wealth, except his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right.  The people have spoken.  There is no doubt that Obama won because of the biased media, the endless flow of election funds he had, and that the American people don&#8217;t know the whole truth about him.  I wonder what will happen if it&#8217;s proven that he&#8217;s not really a natural born American citizen.  The people are so blinded by his charisma, that they&#8217;ll probably be willing to overlook it or change the constitution to suite him.  Just as the Israelites begged for a king and defied God and Samuel, the American people have begged for Obama.  I hope they can afford to keep up with him.  He&#8217;ll be willing to spread everyone&#8217;s wealth, except his own.</p>
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