Comments on: Debunking Some Healthcare Propaganda http://pursuingholiness.com/2009/07/debunking-some-healthcare-propaganda/ pursuing holiness, following politics Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:14:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Laura http://pursuingholiness.com/2009/07/debunking-some-healthcare-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-72737 Laura Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:21:51 +0000 http://pursuingholiness.com/?p=6222#comment-72737 As I said, it's devastating on the individual level, but it is certainly NOT a crisis on the national level. It is not the job of government to solve all our problems. Just because YOU think something rises to the level of crisis - as my husband's cancer was to us personally - doesn't mean everyone else in the nation has to participate in our pain and suffering. We have bankruptcy laws so people can weasel out of paying what they owe, and there are plenty of regulations on what insurance companies must cover. Millions of people get insurance after cancer - my husband has insurance right now, in fact. It is not the job of government to sustain our lifestyles in our time of distress, or even to sustain our lives. It is the job of families and the church, not that of government, to alleviate pain and suffering and serve the poor. I am not entirely against a safety net such as the ones already in place - Medicaid, Social Security disability, welfare - but everyone in the country will not fit into that safety net. Too many are in it already, and entitlement spending is already unsustainable. We do NOT need to expand it. As I said, it’s devastating on the individual level, but it is certainly NOT a crisis on the national level. It is not the job of government to solve all our problems. Just because YOU think something rises to the level of crisis – as my husband’s cancer was to us personally – doesn’t mean everyone else in the nation has to participate in our pain and suffering. We have bankruptcy laws so people can weasel out of paying what they owe, and there are plenty of regulations on what insurance companies must cover. Millions of people get insurance after cancer – my husband has insurance right now, in fact.

It is not the job of government to sustain our lifestyles in our time of distress, or even to sustain our lives. It is the job of families and the church, not that of government, to alleviate pain and suffering and serve the poor. I am not entirely against a safety net such as the ones already in place – Medicaid, Social Security disability, welfare – but everyone in the country will not fit into that safety net. Too many are in it already, and entitlement spending is already unsustainable. We do NOT need to expand it.

]]> By: John Ess http://pursuingholiness.com/2009/07/debunking-some-healthcare-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-72736 John Ess Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:53:17 +0000 http://pursuingholiness.com/?p=6222#comment-72736 Crisis: you say if you get cancer, and you're in the hospital for 6 months, and you lose your home, and file for bankrutcy, and probably become uninsurable, that it is not a crisis. It happens 18,000 times a day, and it is not a crisis. What a foolish notion. Think of the pain and suffering of all those people for whom life seems to have abandoned. It's a crisis to me. Crisis: you say if you get cancer, and you’re in the hospital for 6 months, and you lose your home, and file for bankrutcy, and probably become uninsurable, that it is not a crisis.

It happens 18,000 times a day, and it is not a crisis. What a foolish notion. Think of the pain and suffering of all those people for whom life seems to have abandoned. It’s a crisis to me.

]]> By: ECM http://pursuingholiness.com/2009/07/debunking-some-healthcare-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-70766 ECM Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:24:33 +0000 http://pursuingholiness.com/?p=6222#comment-70766 Argument by oulier (or argument by anecdote, if you prefer) is a maddening tactic because the bleeding heart and braindead amongst us eats it up like it's representative of the whole. I try to talk my friends and family down from the whole socialized med thing but it's as futile as trying to do the same a decade ago when I was, even then, arguing that global warming was not a human-controlled phenomenon. Only now they cite examples like the one you feature here as proof positive whey we need nationalized healthcare, regardless of the consequences for EVERYONE else in the world that as tried this. Argument by oulier (or argument by anecdote, if you prefer) is a maddening tactic because the bleeding heart and braindead amongst us eats it up like it’s representative of the whole. I try to talk my friends and family down from the whole socialized med thing but it’s as futile as trying to do the same a decade ago when I was, even then, arguing that global warming was not a human-controlled phenomenon. Only now they cite examples like the one you feature here as proof positive whey we need nationalized healthcare, regardless of the consequences for EVERYONE else in the world that as tried this.

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